On this “Face the Nation” broadcast, moderated by Nancy Cordes:
- Jonathan Dekel-Chen
- Massachusetts Gov. Maura Healey
- Sean O’Brien, president of the Worldwide Brotherhood of Teamsters
- Rep. Tony Gonzales, Republican of Texas
- David Becker, Middle of Election Innovation and Analysis govt director
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NANCY CORDES: I am Nancy Cordes in Washington.
And this week on Face the Nation: surprising information out of the Center East, as Israel recovers the our bodies of six hostages, together with one American. Anger and grief from hostage households, as Israel confirms the invention of the our bodies in a tunnel in Gaza. New outrage in Israel aimed on the nation’s prime minister and new political strain right here at dwelling. What is going to all of this imply for efforts to safe an elusive cease-fire?
We’ll hear from the daddy of one of many hostages nonetheless held in Gaza.
And again within the U.S., Labor Day marketing campaign kickoff. Each side embark on a battleground blitz, speaking reproductive rights, the border, and the financial system.
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KAMALA HARRIS (Vice President of america (D) and U.S. Presidential Candidate): And in contrast to Donald Trump, I’ll at all times put the center class and working-class households first.
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VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: I come from the center class. I do know what I am speaking about.
AUDIENCE: Kamala! Kamala! Kamala!
DONALD TRUMP (Former President of america (R) and Present U.S. Presidential Candidate): We’ve unlawful immigrants coming into our nation dwelling in luxurious motels, above the place the veterans are. It is so reverse of what it ought to be.
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NANCY CORDES: One massive union nonetheless hasn’t endorsed both candidate, the Brotherhood of Teamsters. Their president, Sean O’Brien, spoke on the Republican Conference. What are he and his members considering now?
Then, we are going to get a report on the impression of the Biden administration’s asylum restrictions on the border. Texas Republican Congressman Tony Gonzales will be part of us.
Democratic Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey may even be part of us.
And, lastly, with early voting in some states about to get below manner, we are going to verify in with CBS election regulation contributor David Becker.
It is all simply forward on Face the Nation.
Good morning, and welcome to Face the Nation. Margaret is off in the present day.
We start this morning with new particulars from the Center East, the place the Israeli navy says the our bodies of the hostages in Gaza had been present in a tunnel. One of many hostages was Hersh Goldberg-Polin, a 23-year-old American Israeli who was kidnapped from a music pageant, one in all 250 hostages taken captive on October 7 of final 12 months.
In an announcement final night time, President Biden mentioned he was – quote – “devastated and outraged” and recalled that Hersh had misplaced his arm serving to pals and strangers through the assault.
Imtiaz Tyab is in Tel Aviv this morning with the newest.
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RACHEL GOLDBERG-POLIN (Mom of Hersh Goldberg-Polin): His title is Hersh.
IMTIAZ TYAB (voice-over): The mother and father of Hersh Goldberg-Polin labored tirelessly to maintain Israel’s hostage disaster on the worldwide stage…
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IMTIAZ TYAB: … even addressing final month’s Democratic Occasion conference.
RACHEL GOLDBERG-POLIN: Hersh, in the event you can hear us, we love you. Keep sturdy. Survive.
IMTIAZ TYAB: Following the announcement the 23-year-old Israeli-American’s stays had been recovered from a tunnel in Southern Gaza, his household launched an announcement saying: “With damaged hearts, the Goldberg-Polin household is devastated to announce the demise of their beloved son and brother Hersh.”
The our bodies of 5 different hostages have additionally been recovered, Carmel Gat, Eden Yerushalmi, Alexander Lobanov, Almog Sarusi, and Grasp Sergeant Ori Danino. In accordance with the Israeli media, preliminary post-mortem studies have discovered all six had been shot within the head.
The Israeli navy has mentioned Hamas was liable for their brutal murders. It additionally mentioned the stays had been found not removed from the place one other hostage, Farhan Alkadi, was discovered alive simply final week.
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IMTIAZ TYAB: The information of the killings has triggered grief and anger throughout Israel, with many Israelis blaming the deaths on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for, of their phrases, sabotaging the hostage launch and cease- fireplace take care of Hamas that is been below negotiation for months.
PROTESTER: All they care about is the politics, and so they did not approve to do a take care of Hamas. And so our family members are nonetheless there. And, presently, we do not see the horizon and do not see – know when they are going to be again with us.
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IMTIAZ TYAB: In a taped deal with, Netanyahu mentioned the Israeli authorities is dedicated to proceed striving for a deal that may return the entire hostages, whereas President Biden informed reporters it was time to finish the warfare on Gaza.
JOE BIDEN (President of america): I feel we’re on the verge of getting an settlement. It is simply time to finish it, time to complete it.
IMTIAZ TYAB: However till an settlement is reached, the violence rages on, even because the U.N. makes an attempt to vaccinate 640,000 Palestinian youngsters to forestall a serious outbreak of polio in Gaza.
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IMTIAZ TYAB: And primarily based on the framework of a deal Israel and Hamas have already agreed to, three of the six hostages who had been killed would have been launched as a part of what’s known as the humanitarian class through the first part of an eventual cease-fire settlement, Nancy, and Hersh Goldberg- Polin would have been one in all them.
NANCY CORDES: So near freedom.
Imtiaz Tyab reporting in Tel Aviv, thanks.
We’re joined now by Jonathan Dekel-Chen, the daddy of one of many Israeli- American hostages nonetheless being held by Hamas. He joins us from Tel Aviv.
Jonathan, thanks a lot for being with us. I can solely think about what a tough night time it has been for your loved ones, for the entire households of the hostages.
Have you ever been capable of join with the Goldberg-Polins or any of the households who misplaced their family members?
JONATHAN DEKEL-CHEN (Father of Hamas Hostage): Sorry about that.
I – sure, I’ve corresponded with them over the course of the previous few hours, expressing condolences. We’re all completely horrified by the useless, mindless demise of those six stunning younger individuals.
NANCY CORDES: What, if something, have you ever been informed by the Israeli authorities about how these six people died and after they died? Hamas is saying that they had been killed by Israeli bullets. Do you imagine that?
JONATHAN DEKEL-CHEN: Sure, we from – from – we all know what we all know from the media, really, and from some statements from our navy.
They died very shortly earlier than they had been discovered by IDF troops. All of them had been – had been definitely dwelling in a state of deprivation for a lot of, many months. However, ultimately, as your reporter mentioned, they had been executed by Hamas. And the identical is true, evidently, of six different our bodies of Israeli hostages who had been returned the week earlier than, 4 of them from my kibbutz.
These had been older males, and, on this case, this week, youthful individuals, however all of them alive for months in Hamas captivity. So, time is completely working towards us, and, fairly actually, towards the individuals of Gaza as properly.
NANCY CORDES: Properly, you heard Imtiaz report that a number of of the hostages who had been killed had been subsequent in line to be launched if there have been to be a cease-fire.
Who do you maintain liable for the truth that there’s nonetheless no cease-fire in the present day?
JONATHAN DEKEL-CHEN: Properly, the state of affairs exists as a result of Hamas, on October 7, invaded Israel, killed practically 1,400 individuals, dedicated mass rape, mass looting, destroyed properties and property, and has refused since October 7 to return the entire hostages.
Now, that being mentioned, , on condition that we’re coping with Devil – I imply, that is form of the launching level for any dialogue – Israelis at massive, and myself included, have been extraordinarily crucial of the Israeli authorities for not negotiating in good religion now for a lot of, many months.
There isn’t any clarification, an inexpensive reason our authorities is refusing to deeply interact in these negotiations and full them, when our complete senior navy institution and intelligence neighborhood has been saying publicly and brazenly for weeks and months that the time has come to finish the combating in Gaza, get our hostages dwelling, as many alive as attainable – we all know that many dozens of the 101 remaining hostages have already been murdered – and to finish the insanity in Gaza, merely the federal government that’s stopping it.
NANCY CORDES: You might be initially from Connecticut. Your son Sagui is the daddy of three younger ladies, one in all whom was born whereas he was in captivity.
He is amongst 38 hostages taken out of your kibbutz. What, if something, have you learnt about the place he’s being held and what situation he’s in?
JONATHAN DEKEL-CHEN: Properly, one small correction.
On October 7, 79 individuals had been taken from our kibbutz, and 51 slaughtered. There are 29 remaining from my kibbutz. We all know that – properly, he is 36 years outdated, father of three little ladies. His seven-month pregnant spouse miraculously survived with their two little ladies on October 7.
The one factor that we all know for certain about Sagui is that, as of late November, early December, we all know that he was alive, wounded, however alive. And we all know that as a result of, within the first hostage change, 40 of the 100 ladies and kids who had been launched by Hamas in that first negotiation had been from our kibbutz.
And a handful of them had seen Sagui and different males principally within the tunnels and will inform us that he was nonetheless alive.
NANCY CORDES: Israel’s opposition chief is now calling the Netanyahu authorities a demise cupboard. He is calling for labor strikes towards Netanyahu.
Do you share that anger? You mentioned that Netanyahu has not engaged severely. Why do you suppose that’s?
JONATHAN DEKEL-CHEN: Properly, I do not suppose it is simply my opinion alone. I feel the overwhelming majority of Israelis now have come to imagine, by his actions, not his phrases, however by his actions, that he is been pushed primarily by a need to retain energy with a slim, very radical messianic coalition within the Israeli authorities.
And he has made decisions to pursue this fantasy of complete victory over Hamas, a terrorist group, little doubt. However this concept of complete victory is a messianic one from his coalition companions, and never real looking. And he is most well-liked that, not less than thus far, over the well-being of all of the hostages.
There are seven Individuals nonetheless remaining in Hamas captivity amongst the 101.
NANCY CORDES: CBS Information has confirmed that Nationwide Safety Adviser Jake Sullivan goes to satisfy just about in the present day with you and the opposite households of American hostages.
Do you imagine that the U.S. authorities has achieved every little thing it might to deliver these hostages dwelling?
JONATHAN DEKEL-CHEN: Properly, I feel the U.S. authorities itself would say that they might have achieved sufficient when all of the hostages are dwelling, the entire 101. They are saying that in our conferences.
I can completely state that since a few days after October 7, the U.S. administration, from high to backside, has been terribly supportive of the hostage households, inclusive, delicate, empathetic.
I imagine that they’ve achieved every little thing of their energy to date. However, on the finish of the day, two males must say sure. One is Yahya Sinwar in a tunnel below Gaza someplace, with the blood of hundreds on his arms, Israelis and Palestinians, and Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem.
President Biden, I imagine, has achieved every little thing that he can. We want – we’d like some extra. However time – time is definitely towards us. There isn’t any query of that.
NANCY CORDES: Properly, we hope that you just get extra.
And we recognize you sharing your story with us in the present day. Jonathan Dekel- Chen, thanks a lot.
And Face the Nation might be again in a single minute. Stick with us.
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NANCY CORDES: We’re joined now by Massachusetts Democratic Governor Maura Healey, who’s becoming a member of us from Boston this morning.
Governor Healey, welcome to Face the Nation. So good to have you ever.
You understand, there was an assumption by many progressives on the subject of Israel that Vice President Harris is extra sympathetic in direction of the Palestinian trigger than President Biden is. However when she was interviewed this week, she mentioned that, really, she is in lockstep with President Biden, she would not do something in another way.
You’re the governor of a state with a whole lot of schools and universities. You know the way younger individuals particularly really feel about this difficulty. Does she must say extra?
GOVERNOR MAURA HEALEY (D-Massachusetts): I feel what she has mentioned is precisely proper, her assertion final night time, this morning, and what she mentioned final week on the conference.
I imply, she’s been very clear concerning the want for America to proceed to face by Israel, for the hostages to return dwelling, for there to be a stop fireplace and a peaceable decision right here. And I feel the way in which she has articulated this has been each with compassion and in addition with a really clear understanding about what must occur.
NANCY CORDES: You signed a giant maternal well being invoice in your state final week. It might broaden insurance coverage protection for pregnant ladies, for girls who’re scuffling with postpartum despair.
President Trump introduced this week that he desires to require insurance coverage corporations to cowl IVF therapies. Is that one thing that you just and oldsters in your states would welcome?
GOVERNOR MAURA HEALEY: Properly, to start with, do not imagine something that Donald Trump says.
You understand, as lawyer normal, I needed to sue him over 100 instances for his lies. And, as governor, I’ve seen the very actual distinction between a Trump administration and an administration that we’ll have with Kamala Harris.
In the case of well being, ladies’s well being, reproductive freedom, there might be no clear – a distinction on this on this election. Kamala Harris stands squarely for reproductive freedom. She helps ladies’s entry to well being care. She is aware of the significance of giving ladies the liberty and the assets to guard care.
Donald Trump, bear in mind, is the architect of the undoing of Roe. He has mentioned simply the opposite day he will help the draconian abortion ban in Florida, the six-week abortion ban.
So, , I do not suppose Donald Trump can spell IVF, not to mention perceive what it means, as a result of his personal Venture 2025, bear in mind, which establishes a fetal personhood, would undermine and take away IVF therapy.
As well as, Donald Trump is the one who tried to undo the Inexpensive Care Act time and time once more. So do not imagine Donald Trump on the subject of ladies’s well being, ladies’s reproductive freedom, and Individuals’ entry to well being care.
He would not imagine in or help any of it. Kamala Harris does. She’ll combat for it. She’ll shield it.
NANCY CORDES: However had been you shocked to listen to a Republican embracing what seems like an insurance coverage protection mandate? Do you see that as a step in the suitable path?
GOVERNOR MAURA HEALEY: You’ll be able to’t take this severely.
I imply, this is not only a Republican. That is – and, by the way in which, I work properly with Republicans. That is Donald Trump, who will say something and every little thing, relying on the place the wind is blowing. He caught some warmth the opposite day, , and so he comes out with an announcement that, swiftly, he is a believer in IVF.
It is simply – it is simply patently false. It is – it is offensive. And I feel, , what’s essential is that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are on the market day after day on offense. I imply, they’re – they’re touching rural areas. They’re in purple counties. They’re in purple states. They’re throughout.
They usually’re not simply speaking to Democrats, Nancy. They’re speaking to Republicans, to independents, and to so many Individuals who’re simply tuning on this Labor Day and have not made up their thoughts about who they will vote for.
And on difficulty after difficulty, defending the center class, a well-functioning financial system, standing up for reproductive freedom, these are all issues that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz imagine in and can combat for, and issues that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance do not know the very first thing about and can’t ship on.
NANCY CORDES: I need to flip to immigration, as a result of, final 12 months, you blamed a, quote, federal disaster of inaction for the big numbers of undocumented migrants who had been ending up in your state and different states.
You even declared a state of emergency. Border crossings have come down fairly considerably over the previous couple of months after the administration’s asylum restrictions went into impact.
Is your state nonetheless at capability or overcapacity? Or has the state of affairs improved?
GOVERNOR MAURA HEALEY: You understand, I am glad you level that out, Nancy, as a result of border crossings are literally beneath 2019 ranges.
Border crossings have come down on account of President Biden’s govt motion. What I’ve mentioned and skilled as a governor in Massachusetts – and I speak to colleagues across the nation – that is the issue of Congress.
Now, bear in mind, months in the past, we really had a bipartisan deal on the desk negotiated by Democrats and Republicans. It might have solved the border disaster. It might have put extra brokers down there. And, as a former lawyer normal, I do know the significance of securing the border, as does Kamala Harris.
She’s been very, very clear about that, to cease the trafficking of medication and weapons and human beings, OK? Bear in mind what occurred? Donald Trump killed that deal and mentioned he didn’t need a deal on the border.
So the fault is Donald Trump proper now on the subject of the border and what has occurred. And the one factor that Kamala Harris was clear about final week, amongst different issues, is that she wouldn’t solely push for bringing again that bipartisan invoice; she would combat for it and he or she would signal it into regulation as president.
That is what states like Massachusetts want.
NANCY CORDES: However in the event you suppose that this coverage is working, do you want that the administration would have put it into impact quite a bit sooner, again once you and different Democratic governors first began sounding the alarm bells?
GOVERNOR MAURA HEALEY: No, I feel the administration has dealt with this as finest it might.
Bear in mind, , it is – it is Congress that should act and has wanted to behave on this, each to provide us the assets, the funding, and the res – for our – for our states who’re coping with this, but additionally for brokers down on the border to cease the circulate of fentanyl, to cease illegal immigration into – into America.
So, actually, the fault is with Congress. And, , sadly, Congress did not act. They usually did not act as a result of too many Republicans had been kowtowing to Donald Trump. And, , that is why President Biden took the motion that he did. I am glad.
And, , I do know it is so essential on this election to elect Kamala Harris, so we are able to take care of the border as soon as and for all.
NANCY CORDES: Governor Healey, yet one more fast query earlier than I allow you to go. You are the previous state lawyer normal, and your title has been floated as a attainable U.S. lawyer normal if Vice President Harris is elected. Is {that a} job that you just’d be interested by?
GOVERNOR MAURA HEALEY: I like being governor of this state. I like what we have been capable of do, free neighborhood school, higher entry to well being care, ensuring that we do issues to maneuver ahead economically.
I am a pro-growth Democrat, as is Kamala Harris. We simply lower taxes right here within the state, which can be one thing that Kamala Harris desires to do – lower taxes for the center class. Donald Trump solely desires to boost taxes for the ultra-wealthy.
So, I am targeted, Nancy, on doing every little thing I can to elect Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in November. Will probably be good, not only for Massachusetts. Will probably be good for America.
NANCY CORDES: Governor Maura Healey of Massachusetts, thanks a lot for becoming a member of us this morning. Actually recognize it.
And we might be proper again.
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NANCY CORDES: We flip now to Sean O’Brien. He’s the president of the Worldwide Brotherhood of Teamsters, one of many nation’s largest labor unions. And he joins us this morning from Boston.
President O’Brien, thanks a lot for being with us on this Labor Day weekend.
I need to begin out by asking you about endorsements. You lead one of many 10 largest unions on this nation, and I need to put this graphic up. Have a look. The opposite 9 have all issued their endorsements for president of america. They’ve all endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris and her operating mate, Tim Walz.
It’s now September 1. The place has summer time gone? When do the Teamsters plan to announce who they’re endorsing?
SEAN O’BRIEN (Normal President, Teamsters): Properly, I feel, traditionally, the Teamsters have at all times endorsed after each respective conventions.
This can be a little totally different this time. Below our management, now we have introduced each single candidate to the desk in entrance of our rank-and-file members and our Normal Govt Board, and we’re ready on Vice President Harris to commit to return meet with us.
NANCY CORDES: And I imagine her marketing campaign – marketing campaign says they’re working with you to determine a date for that.
You understand, her insurance policies are kind of according to the present president, who you probably did sit down with once you thought that he was going to be the nominee, once we all thought he was going to be the nominee. Are there any issues that you’ve got about Harris probably being much less pro-labor, much less pro-union than the present president?
SEAN O’BRIEN: So, our union is quite a bit totally different than most unions. We symbolize 1.3 million members. Half of our members are Republicans. Half of our members are Democrats. So now we have to serve all of our membership equally.
Look, all people has a unique type of management. We wish the chance to sit down down with Vice President Harris. I imply, I mentioned to somebody the opposite day, you do not rent somebody except you give them an interview. And, , that is our alternative to ask her about Teamster-specific points and in addition labor points.
So, till now we have that assembly, , clearly, we are going to wait to make that willpower.
NANCY CORDES: In a short time, you did not endorse anybody again in 1996. Is that – is there a chance that would occur once more?
SEAN O’BRIEN: Look, we need to ensure we make one of the best choice and endorse one of the best candidate for labor.
You understand, 1996 was a very long time in the past. It is all going to be pushed by our rank-and-file members and our management.
NANCY CORDES: Acquired it.
SEAN O’BRIEN: We’re a really, very democratic union.
NANCY CORDES: Acquired it.
Sean O’Brien, stick with us. We will have extra questions for you after the break.
We’ll be proper again.
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NANCY CORDES: We might be proper again with much more Face the Nation.
Stick with us.
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NANCY CORDES: Welcome again to FACE THE NATION.
We proceed our dialog now with teamsters president Sean O’Brien.
Mr. O’Brien, thanks a lot for sticking with us.
Certainly one of your fellow unions, the United Auto Staff, filed federal labor costs towards the Republican nominee, Donald Trump, after he appeared to have a good time the notion of firing employees who go on strike. That occurred in a dialog that he was having with Elon Musk.
Are you with the UAW on this? Do you help the motion they took?
SEAN O’BRIEN: Look, I help anyone that assaults labor, they need to be held accountable, and any group that is going to carry them accountable.
I can not communicate for the UAW. However in the event you recall, when these remarks had been made by former President Trump, I used to be the primary union to name them out, name the administration out, and name, fairly frankly, Elon Musk out. I have been combating company billionaires and greed for the final two and a half years and, , the UAW feels they’ve a proper to file an NLRB (ph) cost, and that is their proper. I’ve received a proper to name out former President Trump or anyone else that assaults labor.
NANCY CORDES: Sure, if I am remembering appropriately, you known as it financial terrorism.
How did it go over along with your members?
SEAN O’BRIEN: Look, our members love the truth that they’ve a voice. They’ve the flexibility to face up and combat company America. It has been a very long time coming. During the last two and a half years, the teamsters union has had 226 strikes. We have grown greater than we ever have. So, there’s a nice urge for food for the combat with our rank and file members. And our rank and file members allow us to combat for them day in and day trip.
NANCY CORDES: That is an ideal segway into my subsequent query, which is about union membership on this nation. It’s Labor Day weekend, in any case. So, let’s check out the state of union labor on this nation. About 10 % of the U.S. workforce are union members, down from about 20 % in 1983. A majority of Individuals say that is dangerous. That decline is dangerous for working individuals. Is the decline irreversible in your view?
SEAN O’BRIEN: The decline is certainly irreversible. Now, let’s look again, , to 1983. That is when a bipartisan congressional invoice was handed trucking (ph) deregulation, and we misplaced 400,000 members. Loads of corporations went bankrupt. So, , though there’s a whole lot of politicians taking credit score for the labor motion over the past couple of 12 months, they’re the identical politicians that brought about this drawback that we face in the present day.
However to reply your query, I feel we’re undoubtedly on the upswing. We’ve proved how helpful the American employee is to this nation, particularly by means of one of many greatest disaster we confronted with the pandemic. And that has, clearly, incentivized employees to type unions. And we have set to work collaboratively with either side to make it possible for individuals will be capable of set up with out retribution or retaliation shifting ahead. And that is as much as politicians, whether or not you are an R, a D, or an I.
NANCY CORDES: You understand, you shared that message on the Republican Conference. A transfer that some members of teamsters management didn’t approve of. They had been fairly vocal about that.
It seems that it additionally value you a talking slot on the Democratic Conference. Did the Democrats ever inform you why they did not offer you an opportunity to talk?
SEAN O’BRIEN: No, they did not.
And, look, I’ll say this. Regardless of the critics on the market – and there are only a few within the management – at any time when I get a chance to focus on the American employee, particularly the teamster employee, I’ll take any and all venue. We requested each conventions respectively, on the identical time, and the Republican Nationwide Conference instantly responded to us. Did not attempt to edit any of our messages. And I used to be hopeful that the Democrats would do the identical, however they did not.
I am not upset about it. However I can inform you this, my rank-and-file members who’ve been lifelong Democrats are usually not glad about it.
NANCY CORDES: Sure, I do know there have been some members of the union who spoke, however that is not the identical as having the chief of the group communicate.
In a short time, did you select to talk on the Republican Conference, which is a reasonably uncommon transfer for a union chief, since you really feel that Trump has been extra pro-labor than previous Republican nominees?
SEAN O’BRIEN: No, by no means. I spoke there as a result of it was the flexibility to focus on how essential we’re. It was the flexibility to name out the individuals, the company elitists, who overlook who constructed this nation, the American employees. You understand, individuals wish to, , have their very own opinions on why we had been there, however I used to be there to speak concerning the American employees. It wasn’t an endorsement for any and all Republicans. It was strictly a message about how essential and the way helpful we’re, and to let the individuals know that combat us day-after-day that we’re not going away.
NANCY CORDES: Understood.
Sean O’Brien, president of the teamsters, thanks a lot. And we’ll be trying ahead to listening to who your union finally endorses. Thanks for being right here.
And we’ll be proper again.
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NANCY CORDES: Former President Trump has promised to launch the most important deportation operation in American historical past. And he is blamed the Biden administration for an historic variety of unlawful border crossings lately. However these crossings have fallen sharply for the reason that Biden administration carried out new asylum restrictions in June. CBS Information immigration reporter Camilo Montoya-Galvez has extra.
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CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
You had been deported from the U.S. in the present day?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: This morning?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Within the morning. How are you feeling now? (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: It does (INAUDIBLE).
You do not know what you are going to do?
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ (voice over): We discovered that desperation is all too acquainted on this border city, the place scores of migrants are routinely turned away by the U.S.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: We’re in Nogales, Mexico. As you may see, the U.S. is just some yards away in that path. However for lots of the migrants right here behind me, it’s now fully out of attain. They had been deported simply this morning from the U.S. below President Biden’s govt order on asylum.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ (voice over): That order has shut down asylum processing between authorized entry factors on the U.S./Mexico border, permitting officers to ramp up deportations of migrants crossing illegally.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: And so that you see dozens of individuals –
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Many households. Sure.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Households with youngsters departed each morning?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Each morning. Each –
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Each morning.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It’s 24/7.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ (voice over): Dora Rodriguez crossed the U.S. border herself within the Nineteen Eighties to flee the civil warfare in El Salvador. She involves Nogales each week with different American volunteers to supply meals and steering to deportees in want.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You understand, they do not even know the place they’re.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: They do not know the place they’re.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They do not even know the place they’re, , and –
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Or what to do.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Proper. So, we encourage them to go to the shelters, native shelters on this space to get a shower, to take meal.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ (voice over): The Biden administration says the brand new measures are partly why unlawful border crossings have hit a four-year low. However based on Rodriguez, these insurance policies imply individuals fleeing hazard are being turned away.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They’re fleeing violence from organized crime, from gangs, starvation. So, they’re no criminals, ? And they’re but punished by our legal guidelines. These individuals are traumatized for a lifetime.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: And also you wished to guard your daughters. (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ (voice over): Rosales (ph) and her daughters had been deported that morning. She says her household fled their hometown in Mexico after a person began harassing her daughters.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: You wished to elucidate to U.S. officers why you got here? (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE). You didn’t get that likelihood?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Are you planning to doubtlessly enter the U.S. once more?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Sure.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Due to your daughters.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
They’ll deport you once more.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: You understand that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: You are keen to take that threat.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ (voice over): A threat many will nonetheless take, regardless of harsher U.S. insurance policies.
Camilo Montoya-Galvez, CBS Information, Nogales, Mexico.
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NANCY CORDES: We’re joined now by Texas Republican Congressman Tony Gonzales.
Congressman, thanks a lot for being with us right here in Washington.
You symbolize a border district. You heard what Camilo simply reported. And let’s put some numbers up on the display screen so individuals actually know what we’re speaking about. All 12 months lengthy the variety of migrant encounters alongside the southern border was hovering a bit of beneath 200,000 a month. Then, this govt order went into place in early June, and people numbers plunged to 100,000 in July. They had been lower in half.
Are you able to name this transfer a hit?
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES (R-TX): Nancy, it is nice to be right here.
You understand, I symbolize practically half of the general southern border. I actually was on the border on Friday.
What I can inform you is, issues are getting worse. And let me offer you an instance.
So, within the – within the New Mexico space, thus far, there’s been 100 unlawful immigrants which have perished, OK. Each a part of the border is totally different. Components of my district, it takes you three days humping by means of the desert in an effort to make it to the border. Within the New Mexico space, it takes you one hour. So, how is 100 individuals dying in a single hour?
The reason being, these legal organizations are holding these migrants in these stash homes for typically over a month, feeding them one meal and one bottle of water a day. So, when it’s time for them to lastly make the trek, they provide them caffeine drugs and so they attempt to rush them over. So, in lots of time – many instances, the humanitarian disaster alongside the border is getting worse.
The opposite piece of it too, in El Paso, one of many most secure international locations in America, the FBI simply carried out an operation this week and so they scooped up dozens of those legal gangs, these anti – by way of the anti-gang activity pressure. So, in lots of instances, Individuals are much less secure due to this. And migrants are much less secure due to this.
I have been of the advocate, that is the way you resolve it. If anyone comes over illegally, they instantly get deported. You additionally double down on authorized immigration. In the event you – if we need to win the area race, we will want engineers from all around the world. If we will develop our financial system, we will want – we will want the hospitality business, development employees and different areas. You double down on work visas. You vet individuals and also you double down on that. We’re not seeing any of that.
NANCY CORDES: So, you have been pushing for the administration to take govt motion for years. They’ve now achieved it and also you’re saying you are not glad about it, although the numbers have come down so sharply?
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: Properly, ask the 100 households that had been – that died. This is part of the – the ugly a part of it’s, so many individuals are dying. And people are the individuals which can be dying. What concerning the individuals which can be getting assaulted and different areas. It is getting worse. So, individuals are trying on the numbers and suppose, oh, it is getting higher. I take a look at it, who’s coming over and what’s taking place to those individuals? In lots of instances, these legal organizations, these (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE), TDA, they’re rising in prominence, this – these Venezuelan gangs. They’re all around the nation and so they’re – they’re seeping their – their tentacles into our society. We’ve to get forward of this. And we’d like actual options.
NANCY CORDES: OK.
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: That actual answer is holding these individuals accountable, deporting individuals that are not right here, and double downing – double down on authorized work visas, individuals doing it the suitable manner.
NANCY CORDES: Proper, so there are bipartisan proposals to take care of these very difficult issues you are describing. Certainly one of them was – was struck within the Senate. However former President Trump scuttled that deal, as . Do you want that he would have allowed that to go ahead?
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: There have been some constructive issues out of that – the border package deal that the Senate was engaged on, however there have been some very unfavourable issues. I would not have voted for that. The explanation I would not have voted for it, as a result of it – it allowed 5,000 individuals to interrupt the regulation earlier than you enact it (ph). The numbers ought to at all times be zero. We will each be agency on unlawful immigration. And there was no speak of authorized immigration. What about rewarding these which can be doing it the suitable manner? What about our allies in Afghanistan that we have left behind? There’s some issues that would have been achieved. That was a failed – that was a failed invoice. There’s hundreds of those payments. That was a failed invoice earlier than it even will get going. I am searching for critical companions.
NANCY CORDES: There is a bipartisan invoice within the Home. Do you help that?
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: Which invoice? I imply the – the invoice that I take a look at it by means of the lens is –
CORDES: I am speaking about Congresswoman Escobar’s invoice.
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: Oh, that has no likelihood of going anyplace. You understand why? As a result of it is 500 pages lengthy. So, that offers you anybody – anybody individual to say, I do not like this invoice. The opposite piece of it, too, is it talks about alloying individuals which can be right here illegally a path to citizenship. That may be a lifeless as lifeless on arrival. You do not even need to go there. It’s a must to begin with securing the border and work visas. Individuals which can be vetted right here to return.
You need to speak about pathway to citizenship, that is code for you actually don’t need to resolve the issue.
NANCY CORDES: OK, however you say you need to resolve the issue, and but you do not like several of the bipartisan proposals on the market. Are you writing your individual?
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: I do. Sure, I’ve a invoice. It is really three pages lengthy. And what it does is, it extends work visas from one 12 months to 3 years and it permits individuals to streamline the method. As an alternative of mailing in work visas, you do it on-line, like everybody else. And there is additionally a border safety piece to it, too. So, you may resolve – you are able to do each. We will each be heat and welcoming, and we are able to each safe the border. All of the proposals proper now haven’t any likelihood of it.
And this is one other factor. When – when was – has Tim Walz ever been to the border? When was the final time he is been to the border? So, you must see it to – to listen to these tales concerning the hundred migrants which have died in New Mexico. It’s a must to see it firsthand.
NANCY CORDES: You served within the Navy for 20 years. As a veteran, I need to get your tackle what occurred this week at Arlington Nationwide Cemetery. The secretary of the Military felt that she needed to put out an announcement saying that, an ANC worker” – an Arlington Nationwide Cemetery worker – “who tried to make sure adherence to those guidelines was abruptly pushed apart when the Trump marketing campaign tried to deliver a marketing campaign photographer on to the grounds with the previous president.”
After which a high Trump adviser posted even after that, “I am reposting this to hope to set off the hacks on the secretary of Military’s workplace.”
Have you ever ever seen a marketing campaign speak this manner concerning the navy?
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: You understand, the humorous factor about President Trump is, he will get all the eye. And it doesn’t matter what he does, typically that will get spun this manner or the opposite.
I can inform you that veterans –
NANCY CORDES: That is not spin. That is his personal marketing campaign employees.
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: Properly, I can inform you, veterans help Trump far and away. And the truth that he was there to focus on that the 13 Individuals that had been killed at Abbey Gate, I feel that is one thing that is neglected.
As soon as once more, I served in Afghanistan, not like Tim Walz, who didn’t serve in Afghanistan. I have been there. I retired as a – as an E9, not like Tim Walz who retired as an E8. It is essential for us to point out up on the identical –
NANCY CORDES: Wait, are you saying – I am simply curious, once you – once you evaluate your service to Tim Walz, are you saying that he is by some means much less of a veteran?
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: I am saying he lied about what pay grade he retired at. And I am saying, I am not mendacity concerning the pay grade I retired at.
I am additionally saying it is essential that we – Arlington is a really particular place.
NANCY CORDES: It’s.
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: We’ve to verify it is a particular place. And now we have to maintain politics out of it. And I feel it is essential that we try this.
And so, I imply, I want – I want each President Trump and, , President Biden had been there highlighting the very fact of those gold star households. That is what we have to get again to. There’s a lot finger- pointing. I get it. It is – it is in direction of the story finish of the election. However now we have to get again to placing veterans first, placing our households first and placing the American individuals above every little thing else.
NANCY CORDES: Congressman Tony Gonzales of Texas, thanks a lot for being right here with us this morning. I recognize it.
REPRESENTATIVE TONY GONZALES: Thanks, Nancy.
NANCY CORDES: And we’ll be again in a second. Keep on with us.
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NANCY CORDES: Election Day remains to be greater than two months away, however voters in dozens of states will not have to attend for November to forged a poll. Thirty-six states plus the District of Colombia enable voters to forged early ballots by mail with out offering an excuse. And in 47 states plus D.C., voters have the choice to vote early, both by mail or in individual.
Becoming a member of us with a take a look at our election system is David Becker. He is a former civil rights lawyer on the Division of Justice, who now leads the Middle of Election Innovation and Analysis. He is additionally a contributor right here at CBS.
David, it’s so good to see you. It’s Labor Day weekend. So, it is the normal kickoff of the election season. Wonderful to suppose that voters in North Carolina are going to begin getting their mail-in ballots as quickly as this week.
Give us a lay of the land. Is it going to be simpler or tougher for voters to forged their ballots in 2024 than it was in 2020?
DAVID BECKER: Properly, there’s a whole lot of political rhetoric on the market about overemphasizing fraud or overemphasizing voter suppression. And there have been some dangerous legal guidelines handed in some states. As an example, these voters in North Carolina will now have to supply some extra identification after they vote by mail.
However general, if we take a look at the historical past of america, it’s simpler to vote than ever earlier than in American historical past. And 99.9 % of voters, after they go to attempt to vote, they will discover it is a simple, handy expertise. In the event that they selected to vote in individual, they will be round their neighbors and members of their neighborhood. They will wait in line lower than half-hour. That is the conventional voting expertise in america.
It’s simpler to register to vote than ever earlier than. Extra voters have entry to on-line voter registration now. Forty % – 40 states or extra. Extra voters have entry – are routinely registered on the motorcar company. Issues like that. After which you may verify your registration simpler than ever earlier than, on-line, proper there in – on the state’s web site in virtually each state.
And Similar with voting. As you confirmed, early voting is out there in virtually each single state. Mail voting with out an excuse is out there within the overwhelming majority of states. So, voters are going to have a alternative and be capable of vote very conveniently.
NANCY CORDES: What ought to individuals find out about registering to vote in the event that they have not gotten round to it but?
DAVID BECKER: So, there’s nonetheless loads of time. That is the excellent news. There’s – each single state permits registration to vote for November as much as 30 days earlier than the election. So, you will have till early October to register. If you have not registered but, do it in the present day. It is a good time. Go surfing. Go to vote.gov. That is an incredible web site to search out details about – out of your state. What you will do is there is a drawdown menu there and you set in your state and you will find out info and it’ll take you to the official state supply, which is the place it’s best to at all times go to verify your registration or register to vote.
Some states enable registration by means of October and even on Election Day itself, however each single state, each single eligible voter in america can vote – can register to vote up till early October.
NANCY CORDES: David, you have been actually proactive – I see you on-line – pushing again once you encounter actually critical election misinformation, significantly when it comes from somebody like Elon Musk –
DAVID BECKER: Proper.
NANCY CORDES: Who owns a social media platform and has been pushing some actually inflammatory claims on the subject of voting.
DAVID BECKER: Sure. There’s – there are very highly effective forces that need us as Individuals, who reside in our democratic society, to doubt that democratic society, to doubt our elections that resolve our leaders, and to hate our neighbors, to think about our neighbors as enemies in the event that they occur to disagree with us politically. And the very fact is that our elections are as safe as they’ve ever been. We’ve extra paper ballots now than ever earlier than. These paper ballots are auditable and recountable. And we do audit them to verify the machines counted them precisely.
We’ve extra correct voter lists than ever earlier than thanks to higher know-how and knowledge that enables states to share knowledge between – between states and inside a state, to make it possible for we sustain with individuals as they transfer in order that now we have the suitable deal with for them. We’ve extra pre-election litigation than ever earlier than. Some individuals suppose that is a foul factor. I occur to suppose it is a good factor. It clarifies these guidelines.
Once we get to Election Day, either side, all of the candidates, is aware of these guidelines. These are the principles we’re enjoying below. You won’t like them, however these are the principles. And you may’t complain about them as soon as the – as soon as Election Day comes.
After which now we have had extra post-election litigation that has confirmed and verified the outcomes than ever earlier than. We sit right here 46 months after the final presidential election proper now, an election that has withstood extra scrutiny than any election in world historical past, extra scrutiny than any election in world historical past, and there is nonetheless not a single shred of proof that is been offered to any courtroom – it has been offered on social media. It is easy to place something up on social media. However to current it to a courtroom, topic it to scrutiny and cross-examination, have a decide hear it and rule, there’s not been a single shred of proof offered in any courtroom within the nation.
NANCY CORDES: However are we seeing much more misinformation this election season than we have seen previously? And the place’s it coming from?
DAVID BECKER: Sure, we’re seeing extra election disinformation for certain. It is coming from Donald Trump. It is coming from Elon Musk. It is coming from, we all know, international adversaries, like Russia, and Iran, and North Korea and China, who’re closely invested in not solely maybe electing a selected candidate, however in additionally all of them are closely invested in getting us to doubt that the right – the correct candidate was elected, to doubt that our democracy and our elections are working.
And so once you see info on social media particularly, that triggers one thing inside you, that appears to make you indignant concerning the different facet, all of us, as refined media customers, ought to pause and say, what’s – perhaps that anger is the product that they are making an attempt to create. Perhaps they’re getting paid, or they’re benefitting from creating that anger in us. And as an alternative, go to the trusted sources. Our election officers, Republicans, Democrats all throughout the nation. There are lots of of hundreds of them. Our election goes to be run by them, these professionals. And we will rely on about one million in volunteers. Individuals in our communities and our neighbors who’re going to volunteer their time for an extended day on Election Day to make it possible for our elections are correct.
And if anybody has any doubts concerning the system, volunteer to hitch them. Volunteer to be a ballot employee. Go into your native county or native election web site. It is normally very straightforward to volunteer. They’re searching for individuals. And you will see firsthand the entire checks and balances and redundancies that stop widespread fraud.
NANCY CORDES: Nice recommendation. David Becker, election regulation knowledgeable for CBS Information, thanks a lot. Respect it.
DAVID BECKER: Thanks, Nancy.
NANCY CORDES: And we’ll be proper again.
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NANCY CORDES: The following presidential debate might be on Tuesday, September tenth. And we can have full protection with a preview particular at 8:00 p.m. Japanese right here on CBS. The reside simulcast might be at 9:00 p.m., adopted by knowledgeable evaluation.
That is it for us in the present day. Thanks for watching. For FACE THE NATION, I am Nancy Cordes. Have an incredible vacation.
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