The next is a transcript of an interview with Republican vice-presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance, Republican of Ohio on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” that aired on Sept. 15, 2024.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Good morning and welcome to Face the Nation. We have now quite a bit to get to this morning, and we start with Republican vice-presidential nominee Senator JD Vance of Ohio. Welcome again to Face the Nation..
SEN. JD VANCE: Thanks Margaret. Good morning.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Senator, we heard from Donald Trump this week that he desires to finish all taxes on extra time pay for staff. How would this exemption work? Would this imply somebody working a 40-hour work week would then not pay payroll taxes and never pay earnings taxes?
SEN. JD VANCE: Properly, that is precisely how he envisions it. After all, we’re speaking about hourly staff, and naturally, if you work extra time on this nation past 40 hours, you get time and a half, and the President saying, in case you’re a type of choose arduous staff that is actually busting your rear finish to attempt to make good in Kamala Harris’s economic system, then you need to get a tax reduce. And I believe it suits totally, Margaret, together with his whole tax agenda, which is, we would like American staff to get tax cuts beneath President Trump’s insurance policies, and we need to really penalize corporations which can be transport jobs abroad via tariffs. And Kamala Harris’s tax insurance policies are, the truth is, the inversion of that. She desires to boost taxes on American staff and truly reward corporations for transport jobs abroad. So, it’s a actually stark distinction between the agenda of Donald Trump and of Kamala Harris.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Simply to observe up on that, you mentioned, penalize corporations who ship jobs abroad. So your tariff coverage would solely apply to these corporations who’re transport jobs abroad?
SEN. JD VANCE: Properly, virtually by definition, Margaret, if you apply a tariff, what you are actually doing is making use of a penalty to anyone who manufactures or makes one thing abroad. You are mainly charging them a penalty to deliver it again into our nation. And so, what we’re making an attempt to do right here with these- these tariffs, is definitely induce extra individuals to make extra issues in america of America. One of many nice tragedies of not simply Kamala Harris’s management, however 40 years of American failure, is that we have misplaced our crucial manufacturing industries to Mexico, to China. We began to undo that for 4 years beneath Donald Trump’s management, however we have to do it for for much longer and in a way more intense manner, as a result of, as we have realized simply in the previous couple of days, the world has gotten extra harmful. We won’t depend on different individuals to make the stuff we’d like.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It is cheaper to fabricate abroad, which is why so many corporations do it, however that- however that is one other situation. Simply to observe up on the promise you are making to working class voters, you at the moment are saying no tax on suggestions, no tax on extra time, no tax on earnings from Social Safety. All of that will wipe out an enormous chunk of the tax base. Do you actually suppose that fiscally conservative Republicans in Congress are going to vote for this?
SEN. JD VANCE: Properly, I believe clearly Republicans imagine American staff ought to preserve extra of their very own cash. And sure, I believe that if we really stability this out by penalizing a few of these corporations for manufacturing abroad, I do suppose that we are able to get this to stability out in the fitting manner, Margaret, the place we’re not blowing a gap within the deficit, we’re giving staff extra their cash. However to your level, we’re really making it simpler to make issues in america of America. Now you are precisely proper. Typically it’s a little bit cheaper to fabricate abroad, however we now have to ask why that’s. It is as a result of lots of these overseas international locations use literal slave labor in manufacturing. We shouldn’t be permitting slave laborers to profit from American markets. In order for you entry to our market, you have to pay our staff truthful wages. That’s the Trump agenda, and it is one thing he already applied as soon as, by the way in which, Margaret, however goes to double down on in a second time period.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, the ten% to 60% tariffs you are saying, that is only a vary, and you may work out precisely who it applies to in case you win the election?
SEN. JD VANCE: Properly, I believe you must take some recognition Margaret, that it is a negotiating tactic. You go into a few of these negotiations, and typically you are going to need to do greater tariffs. Typically you would possibly be capable to do decrease tariffs, however I do not suppose you go in saying you are going to do precisely this on each nation, you utilize that as a part of the negotiation. That is one factor that Donald Trump was so good at throughout his first time period, is definitely negotiating with overseas international locations and benefiting American staff within the course of. In the event you say you are not going to do any tariffs, you are mainly going into these commerce negotiations utterly unilaterally disarmed. You do not need anyone who’s negotiating for American staff, who’s already saying, I am not going to make use of an important instrument, which is strictly what Kamala Harris has finished.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Properly, Harris and Biden have used tariffs in strategic methods on strategic industries, and it sounds such as you’re saying, you will even be strategic there. You characterize Ohio right here in Washington, and your state’s governor is asking for federal assist to take care of the inflow of about 15,000 migrants over the previous 4 years, which has strained the well being system, he says schools- induced questions of safety. You’ve got been speaking about these issues, however what have you ever finished to assist Governor DeWine together with his request for federal assist?
SEN. JD VANCE: Properly, an important factor that we are able to do to help Governor DeWine and the entire state of Ohio, and admittedly, the entire nation Margaret, is to cease Kamala Harris’s open border. And for 2 years, I have been combating for insurance policies that do precisely that. You must ask your self, why have these 20,000 Haitian migrants been dropped right into a small Ohio city in only a few years Margaret? And the reply is as a result of Kamala Harris applied what’s known as short-term protecting service for over 100,000 Haitian migrants. She mainly, with a magic wand, granted amnesty to hundreds of people that should not have been on this nation, and now a small Ohio city is coping with the results. And to anyone listening, Margaret, that is what Kamala Harris desires to do to each city on this nation. Overwhelm them with migration, stress their municipal budgets, see communicable illnesses on the rise. What is going on in Springfield is coming to each city and metropolis on this nation, if Kamala Harris’s open border insurance policies are allowed to proceed, we have to cease this. Americans are struggling due to what she’s finished. And- please–
MARGARET BRENNAN: — This is the fact- yeah- this is the details, although, a lot of these Haitian migrants moved there by alternative as a result of they’ve short-term protected standing, which supplies them the power to work. That TPS, short-term protecting standing has been in place since 2010 and in reality, Donald Trump renewed short-term protecting standing for Haitians when he was president. Ought to he not have finished that?
SEN. JD VANCE: Properly, let me, let me do some reality examine Margaret, as a result of there was a renewal in June of 2017 I imagine, which may be very early in Donald Trump’s presidency. And he really ended it in 2018 that short-term Protecting Service for Haitian migrants–
MARGARET BRENNAN: — he regrets having–
SEN. JD VANCE: — Kamala Harris, having, when she grew to become president or vice president- Kamala Harris reimplemented it as vice chairman, and now you have seen this huge explosion simply in the previous couple of years. I imply, Margaret, simply to provide some context right here, there have been perhaps a thousand Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio simply three years in the past. Now there’s shut to twenty,000 and it is inconceivable to overstate its overwhelmed native companies and–
MARGARET BRENNAN:– Okay, so I perceive you need to end–
SEN. JD VANCE: — colleges. You might have a thousand youngsters now in a small district– please contextualize this, Margaret, as a result of a thousand youngsters who do not communicate English, so now the children who’re in that college district should not getting a superb schooling. The native well being companies have change into overwhelmed. This can be a horrible tragedy. And I believe it is necessary Margaret to say we’re not mad at Haitian migrants for eager to have a greater life. We’re offended at Kamala Harris for letting this occur to a small Ohio city.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Properly, Governor DeWine has been calling consideration to it and asking for federal assist. On September 9, you amplified what you mentioned your self have been rumors about Haitian migrants consuming pets. Donald Trump then claimed these have been details, and he repeated them to 67 million individuals on the talk stage this previous week. In Springfield yesterday, two hospitals went into lockdown after police have been alerted to a bomb risk. On Friday, two elementary colleges, one center college have been evacuated. Thursday, an elementary college was additionally evacuated, and Springfield Metropolis Corridor needed to evacuate on account of a bomb risk made by somebody who mentioned they have been involved about immigration. These false claims are endangering your constituents. Do you remorse your phrases?
JD VANCE: Properly, Margaret, to start with, we condemn all violence and condemn all threats of violence. I need whoever made these threats to be prosecuted to the complete extent of the regulation, however we do not imagine Margaret in a heckler’s veto on this nation. You’ll be able to condemn violence on the one hand, whereas additionally saying that there have been horrible issues brought on by Kamala Harris’s open border in Springfield. Now, you mentioned that these are false rumors. Properly, I’ve heard a couple of dozen issues from my constituents in Springfield, Ohio. Ten of them are verifiable and confirmable. A few them we now have direct first-hand accounts of, for instance, migrants abducting geese on the native park and slaughtering them and consuming them. Now, perhaps all of those constituents are mendacity to me, however I’d respect if the American media confirmed up and did some actual investigation, fairly than amplifying the worst individuals on this planet. Why is anyone calling in a bomb risk, Margaret? It is as a result of they need consideration. I believe that we must always ignore these ridiculous psychopaths who’re threatening violence on a small Ohio city and concentrate on the truth that we now have a vice-president who isn’t doing her job in defending that small Ohio city.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. Properly, CBS did hear from group members in Springfield who work with migrants, and so they have talked about safety considerations. I do know the mayor of Springfield, a Republican, instructed ABC Information, “we have been punched in a manner we must always not have been punched.” He mentioned, “All these federal politicians which have negatively spun our metropolis, they should know they’re hurting our metropolis, and it was their phrases who did it.” Your phrases, sir. Do you remorse them?
SEN. JD VANCE: Margaret, we have been listening to about these issues for months, even in some circumstances, for years, and the issue right here isn’t that Donald Trump and I’ve known as out what’s occurred to Springfield. We have heard–
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MARGARET BRENNAN: — I’ve talked in regards to the issues and cited Governor DeWine saying extra professional problems–
SEN. JD VANCE: — from so many constituents who’re thankful–
MARGARET BRENNAN: — I am not asking about that. We have now documented that. I am asking about your phrases sir, which you’re answerable for.
SEN. JD VANCE: However Margaret, you solely documented it after Donald Trump known as consideration to it, and so look, with all respect to the Springfield mayor–
MARGARET BRENNAN:– You tweeted September Ninth–
SEN. JD VANCE: — We have heard from many his city who’re grateful- who’re grateful, Margaret, for the truth that we at the moment are speaking about these issues and making an attempt to unravel them. We do not need something unhealthy to occur to Springfield, however the worst factor that is occurred to Springfield and the final 20 years is that Kamala Harris allowed 20,000 migrants to be dropped on the entrance door with no plan to assimilate them, no plan to look after them, no plan to assist the residents take care of the large pressure on social companies. I perceive. Look, I talked to lots of people in Springfield. Persons are annoyed with the nationwide media consideration. Some individuals are additionally grateful that lastly, somebody is being attentive to what is going on on. You are by no means going to get these items good, Margaret. However that is why Kamala Harris should not have finished this within the first place. These individuals are struggling as a result of she did not do her job.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Once more, the Springfield mayor is a Republican. That is who I used to be quoting to you. Yesterday, you posted a video, the origins of which CBS can’t verify, claiming Africans are grilling cats in Dayton. Haiti isn’t Africa. Dayton isn’t Springfield. However placing all that apart, what’s your intent in furthering the concentrate on these individuals? You are not speaking about tips on how to surge federal funds to assist with security, hospitals, and colleges. You are speaking about this…
SEN. JD VANCE: Margaret is your argument actually, that it is an enormous distinction if migrants are grilling cats 20 miles away from Springfield fairly than downtown Springfield? And wouldn’t it change if the video was 20 miles nearer to the place these items allegedly occurred? My level right here is that the American media ignores these tales. Everyone who has handled a big inflow of migration is aware of that typically there are cultural practices that appear very far on the market to lots of People. Are we not allowed to speak about this in america of America? Margaret, as a result of the American media is extra the truth is checking harmless people who find themselves begging for reduction than they’re in investigating a few of these claims. I will discuss what my constituents are sending me. That video was really filmed by a constituent. That video was filmed by an individual who’s apprehensive about what is going on on in these communities. I will discuss it as a result of that is what I have to do as america senator for Ohio, is characterize Ohio and truly make it possible for individuals’s considerations get their voice.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Once more, as a consultant of Ohio, these are officers from Ohio, together with the Dayton police chief who mentioned there isn’t any proof of what you simply claimed as being verifiable or true. CBS confirmed- we have been capable of verify this video, and it was of the Proud Boys marching via Springfield yesterday. We all know hate teams have been amplifying the considerations about Haitians for weeks. What exactly- what constituency are you making an attempt to attraction to right here by placing this on the heart of the dialog?
SEN. JD VANCE: Margaret, to start with, no matter some native mayor mentioned about this case, I’m listening to from dozens of constituents who’re involved about these points. They’re allowed to be involved about these points, and I believe it is shameful how the American media ignores them. Now, you talked about a Proud Boys march. I think about that is the clip that I noticed yesterday of a couple of dozen individuals marching down the road. After all, I do not align myself with the views of the Proud Boys Margaret, however we now have to keep in mind that it is a actual downside. The media is utilizing issues like a dozen marchers to disregard and distract from the truth that because of Kamala Harris’s open borders, there are kids who don’t get a superb schooling. Due to her open border, there’s a rise in HIV circumstances in Springfield, Ohio. Due to her open border, murders are up 81% in Springfield, Ohio. I’m rather more involved in regards to the Vice President of america failing to do her job than I’m {that a} dozen individuals carried the fallacious flag once they have been marching in Springfield, Ohio yesterday. Let’s concentrate on the true downside. That is the Vice President of america not doing her job.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Senator JD Vance, a lot extra to speak to you about. We have now to depart it there at the moment. I do know you are pressed for time. Face the Nation will probably be again in a minute. Stick with us.