Earlier than we kind via end-of-season Deshaun Watson exit methods for the Cleveland Browns, let’s make one factor clear: Watson stays the beginning quarterback.
Browns followers know the routine.
One other week, one other miserable efficiency from the offense, adopted by credibility-sapping assurances that Watson stays QB1.
It occurred once more Sunday after the Browns misplaced 20-16 at Philadelphia regardless of scoring on a blocked subject aim return.
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Cleveland is the primary crew in additional than 20 years to play the primary six video games of a season with out gaining 300 whole yards or exceeding 18 factors even as soon as.
Watson’s EPA (anticipated factors added) per go play ranks 590th out of 592 quarterbacks who began the primary six video games of a season since 2000, per TruMedia.
It’s worse than unhealthy, even by latter-day Browns requirements.
The Choose Six column leads by exploring how each Browns fan’s fantasy — that this Watson charade may finish — may turn out to be actuality. The salary-cap ramifications would make chopping Watson painful, however not unimaginable. May there be a approach for Cleveland to string the tiniest needle on a commerce, even when no different groups had any curiosity in Watson enjoying for them? I’ve run via situations with executives from different groups and can lay all of it out right here.
First, the total Choose Six menu:
• Watson endgame for Browns
• Chargers for actual? Taking inventory
• Which 9-8 groups fooled themselves?
• Huge fallout from Lions-Cowboys
• When Reid may break Shula’s document
• 2-minute drill: Rodgers vs. 2012 Peyton
1. Let’s examine all of the containers mandatory for the Browns to start life anew, with out Watson, as soon as this season ends.
The proof says Watson is a legal responsibility on and off the sector. Even when he improved as a quarterback, may any fan with a conscience root for him after greater than 20 settled lawsuits and the dearth of public accountability? May a Browns fan ever be ok with him?
It’s extremely shitty to do that to the remainder of the crew. Joel Bitonio is on the market each week enjoying via who is aware of what and has to wreck his physique once they don’t have any likelihood of being good b/c of the QB. Myles Garrett is enjoying in ache each week. Really feel for everybody else there https://t.co/jswBSCNoP8
— Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) October 13, 2024
“Watching him play, it appears to be like like he has no confidence,” an exec stated. “It’s brutal. I simply don’t see how he ever will get it again with the historical past and the whole lot that’s occurred.”
The Browns may get out of this after the season by buying and selling Watson and draft capital to a different crew in change for a package deal that might embody one other participant and/or draft issues. They may finesse the cap implications by executing a sign-and-trade. But it surely’s sophisticated.
A Watson commerce after the season rests on three assumptions:
• The state of affairs in Cleveland can be untenable for all events. The Browns received’t need to hold saying Watson is their man and even have him round. Watson won’t need to proceed the distress both.
“I feel the league wish to see him go away additionally,” the exec added.
• Cleveland won’t need to carry out the cap and roster machinations that will include releasing him. Watson’s 2025 salary-cap cost would improve from $73 million to $172 million (if minimize earlier than June 1) or $118 million (if after June 1), per Over the Cap. The $118 million determine may very well be doable, however the Browns might need a more durable time competing within the brief time period. Underneath this state of affairs, they might search a commerce.
• Any crew buying Watson wouldn’t see him as a candidate to play for them. The bags related to Watson far outweighs no matter on-field potential stays.
“They may minimize him tomorrow and nobody would choose him up,” one other exec stated. “I’d not need that toxicity to have something to do with my crew construct.”
From there, three containers should be checked:
• Watson should waive his no-trade clause. He would get out of Cleveland and nonetheless get the $92 million attributable to him over the following two seasons. Cash may very well be moved round in order that he will get a few of it sooner than he in any other case would.
• Cleveland and the buying crew should comply with phrases. Dangerous groups with billionaire house owners and plenty of cap house may conceivably command a haul from Cleveland for taking Watson and his wage if the Browns really feel motivated sufficient to maneuver him.
“Carolina ought to do it,” a 3rd exec stated. “So ought to the Patriots.”
OK, however how a lot draft capital would you must soak up as much as $92 million in wage for a participant you’re going to chop?
“The dialog begins with a number of 1’s,” this exec stated. “Perhaps much less if Cleveland needs to pay wage.”
No approach, a fourth exec protested.
“My level is, as uncomfortable as it might be, merely conserving Watson on the roster in 2025 is an choice,” he stated.
In 2017, the Houston Texans traded second- and sixth-round picks with quarterback Brock Osweiler to Cleveland for a fourth-round selection, in order that the Browns would pay Osweiler’s $16 million wage. Taking over $16 million for what amounted to a second-round choose is one potential information (Osweiler by no means performed for the Browns).
“If I had been the buying crew,” this exec added, “I’d say, ‘One second-round choose equals $16 million, so if we’re taking up $50 million of the $90 million, that’s three 2’s.’”
Of the Osweiler cash-to-picks ratio, a fifth exec stated, “Cleveland has too many good folks to do one thing that asinine” with Watson.
“To eliminate, say, $30 million out of $90 million and have to surrender two second-round picks? I’m not doing that if I’m Cleveland,” the fourth exec stated. “The numbers are a lot bigger right here that it’s a rather more sophisticated evaluation. And you’ve got two years of ensures, not only one. That’s the reason, in the long run, I don’t see why Cleveland shouldn’t simply sit him and wait.”
• The league should approve the deal: One salary-cap supervisor stated the league points memos to groups warning towards buying and selling for cap house. However two higher-ranking execs with in depth expertise executing trades stated the Osweiler deal and others during which groups comply with pay some wage for traded gamers renders these warnings hole.
“The league may inform Cleveland they received’t approve it to scare them,” one of many higher-ranking execs stated.
Even when the league needs Cleveland to endure ache for signing Watson to a completely assured deal, that doubtless isn’t all of the league needs.
“Would everyone concerned prefer it simply to recede into the historical past books and be performed?” one other exec requested rhetorically.
Watson Situation | 2025 Cap Hit |
---|---|
Stays on roster |
$72,935,000 |
Lower pre-June 1 |
$172,734,000 |
Lower post-June 1 |
$118,935,000 |
Traded pre-June 1 |
$80,734,000 |
Traded post-June 1 |
$26,935,000 |
The 2 highest-ranking execs predicted Cleveland would slightly maintain onto Watson or minimize him than half with important draft capital to commerce him. The necessity to sever all ties with Watson may really feel much less acute by subsequent week or subsequent month as soon as Jameis Winston replaces him within the lineup.
“When it turns into clear they’re keen to have him sit (subsequent season), then you definately may get a proposal from a crew that may be a extra real looking one,” one in every of these execs stated. “I don’t see that occuring, however I definitely wouldn’t make it appear to be I must eliminate this man. Look how that’s working with Davante Adams.”
If Watson stays in Cleveland, he would gather his $46 million wage in 2025 whereas his deal would depend $73 million towards the cap, pending any tweaks to his deal. No participant in league historical past has counted even $50 million towards the cap in a given 12 months whereas on the roster. The historic $53 million cost Denver absorbed this 12 months for chopping Russell Wilson is lower than half what Cleveland would incur from going the identical route.
How keen may the Browns turn out to be to mitigate among the monetary burden by buying and selling draft capital? That’s just one query to contemplate.
“The opposite a part of that’s, I do know there isn’t any collusion on this world, however what number of of those different house owners are going to say, ‘F— you, we aren’t bailing the Browns out of something’?” one of many execs stated.
2. The Chargers’ protection has dominated each offense within the AFC West, and it’s solely Week 6. The offense perked up Sunday. Is that this the beginning of one thing?
Final week, we highlighted the job Denver Broncos defensive coordinator Vance Joseph has performed in serving to his high-profile boss, Sean Payton, compete whereas fielding a bottom-five offense.
Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse Minter, who briefly took over head-coaching duties when Jim Harbaugh fell sick throughout a victory over Denver on Sunday, has performed related work for his boss.
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The Chargers are 3-2 whereas enjoying offense so conservatively for a lot of the season that an opposing coach joked of Harbaugh, “Jimmy approaches each recreation like he’s beginning for the Bears.”
The offense got here to life towards Joseph’s protection Sunday after failing to surpass even 180 yards passing in any of the primary 4 video games, a primary since 2002 for the franchise that introduced us Dan Fouts and Philip Rivers.
The protection did what it has performed all season.
The Chargers’ leap from twenty eighth in defensive EPA per play final season to No. 1 via Sunday displays a schedule that includes horrible opposing offenses (Raiders, Panthers, Steelers, Broncos). However the best way Minter’s protection carried out towards Kansas Metropolis in Week 4 counts for fairly a bit. That was the Chargers’ eleventh matchup towards Patrick Mahomes and the primary during which Los Angeles’ protection completed with optimistic EPA.
The chart above reveals what a Chargers optimist may name the Minter impact in these video games towards Mahomes.
The crew has now posted optimistic defensive EPA in all 5 video games to start out the season, matching the 2006 Wade Phillips-coordinated protection for the Chargers’ longest streak to start out a season since 2000. Subsequent up: video games towards the Arizona Cardinals, New Orleans Saints, Cleveland Browns and Tennessee Titans.
3. From Tampa Bay to Seattle, seven groups completed 9-8 final season. Have been they sincere with themselves? Right here’s what the proof says up to now.
These seven groups have a mixed 19-23 document via Sunday, from Inexperienced Bay and Tampa Bay at one finish to Jacksonville on the different.
Let’s run it again
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-2): Tampa Bay and Inexperienced Bay are tied for eleventh in win proportion since transferring on from Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, respectively, after the 2022 season. Each groups are 13-10 (.565) since then. Tampa Bay has had one of many 5 youngest offenses by snap-weighted age this season (the Packers have the youngest).
Inexperienced Bay’s entrance workplace commanded 16 top-five votes on 40 ballots in a current survey by The Athletic. Ought to the Bucs get extra love?
It’s been an fascinating 11-year run for common supervisor Jason Licht. Tampa Bay went from 2-14 to 6-10 to 9-7 in his first three seasons, then plateaued and fell off whereas making an attempt to develop Jameis Winston. Touchdown Brady helped ship the franchise its second Lombardi Trophy. If the Bucs win the NFC South this season, that can make 4 consecutive division titles, two with out Brady.
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• Cincinnati Bengals (2-4): Burrow’s surgically repaired proper wrist may not be all the best way again, however his legs look simply high quality. His 47-yard landing run towards the Giants on Sunday evening put him on a listing we by no means anticipated Burrow to affix (one in every of 13 quarterbacks since 2000 to have a dashing landing that lengthy). Cincinnati’s protection had been the issue for many of this season till holding New York to seven factors.
• Indianapolis Colts (3-3): Richardson returned from shoulder surgical procedure, however not for lengthy. He has now missed 15 of 23 attainable begins attributable to harm. The Colts had been ok to go 7-6 with Gardner Minshew within the lineup final season. They could fare higher than that this season with Joe Flacco, who now has seven landing passes with one interception for Indy. As for Richardson, we’ve realized what we already knew, that staying on the sector could be troublesome for him.
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• Seattle Seahawks (3-3): They changed Pete Carroll with Mike Macdonald to improve their defensive scheme. They ranked first in defensive EPA per play via Week 3 after going through Denver, New England and Miami. They rank thirtieth since then after going through Detroit, the Giants and San Francisco. Who’re they? What’s Macdonald’s imaginative and prescient for enjoying type?
• New Orleans Saints (2-4): The early returns from Klint Kubiak’s hiring as offensive coordinator had been overwhelmingly optimistic, however it’s been a wrestle recently. Accidents to quarterback Derek Carr and now receiver Chris Olave are turning this right into a see-what-we-have-in-Spencer Rattler season.
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• Inexperienced Bay Packers (4-2): Jordan Love has 12 landing passes in 4 begins, essentially the most for any quarterback via his first 4 begins this season. The Packers’ skill to win twice with Malik Willis behind middle, when Love was injured, stored them in place. The protection, beneath new coordinator Jeff Hafley, has collected 17 turnovers, most for any Packers crew via six video games since 2002. All seems on schedule up to now.
• Jacksonville Jaguars (1-5): The Jaguars’ document via the primary six video games of this season is similar as their document via the ultimate six final season. Is that so stunning? It should be for the Jaguars. Their five-year, $275 million offseason extension for quarterback Trevor Lawrence precipitated proprietor Shad Khan calling this the very best crew in franchise historical past.
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4. The Lions beat the Cowboys 47-9 however misplaced Aidan Hutchinson. Let’s kind via the ramifications.
The sport itself: The Lions over their previous two video games have rushed 64 occasions for 300 yards whereas finishing 83 % of their passes for 581 yards, six touchdowns, no interceptions and a most 158.3 passer score.
This two-game stretch is an excessive manifestation of what can occur when Detroit faces groups which are weak towards the run (Dallas on Sunday, Seattle earlier than that).
Dallas was additionally coming off back-to-back prime-time highway video games, each hard-fought, whereas the Lions had been coming off a bye. We noticed the very best model of Detroit towards the worst model of Dallas. The Cowboys now get their bye week. It’s an extended season.
McCarthy’s job standing: Proprietor Jerry Jones stated he’s not contemplating a training change in the course of the bye. I consider him. Mike McCarthy has a 45-28 (.616) document with Dallas, he presumably has Dak Prescott’s backing, the crew continues to be within the combine at 3-3 and Mike Zimmer’s protection hasn’t performed effectively sufficient for him to take over as interim coach.
What the Lions can do: Hutchinson’s season-ending damaged leg dealt an emotional blow. Long term, his absence may make the distinction between reaching the Tremendous Bowl or falling brief. Hutchinson has been that good whereas posting the NFL’s highest strain price since 2019 (first eight video games, minimal 150 go rush snaps).
Stress price (150+ rushes): Video games 1-8, 2019-24
Common supervisor Brad Holmes isn’t going to seek out one other Hutchinson, however there may very well be alternatives on the commerce deadline as groups fall from rivalry. The Panthers’ Jadeveon Clowney and the Browns’ Za’Darius Smith play for groups which are fading quick. The Jets are ready out Haason Reddick. What in the event that they lose a number of extra video games?
“They’re enjoying at such a excessive stage proper now,” an exec stated. “Typically there may be only a second the place you must overpay. Are you going to the Tremendous Bowl or not? Are you going to strive?”
A former GM wasn’t as enthusiastic.
“You’ll be able to work the telephones between now and the commerce deadline,” he stated, “however that’s going to be an uphill battle.”
5. Andy Reid’s 5-0 Kansas Metropolis Chiefs have received almost 80 % of Patrick Mahomes’ begins. Right here’s a cheat sheet displaying when Reid may go Don Shula for essentially the most teaching wins in NFL historical past.
The undefeated begin has left Reid with 289 profession wins, counting playoffs. He wants 36 wins to go George Halas for third on the all-time checklist, 45 wins to go Invoice Belichick for second and 59 wins to go Shula for the document.
The desk under initiatives when Reid may go Shula primarily based on six potential future win charges.
Passing Shula: Andy Reid timeline
Reid Win % | Video games to Shula | Season (G#) |
---|---|---|
.850 |
70 |
2027 Sport 16 |
.800 |
74 |
2027 Sport 20 |
.750 |
79 |
2028 Sport 5 |
.700 |
85 |
2028 Sport 11 |
.650 |
91 |
2028 Sport 17 |
.600 |
99 |
2029 Sport 5 |
As a result of playoff video games depend towards the document and Mahomes’ postseason win price (15-3, .833) is roughly the identical as his regular-season win price, I’ve used 20-game seasons as the idea for calculating when Reid may go Shula. That assumes a 17-game common season and three potential playoff video games, accounting for the divisional spherical via the Tremendous Bowl.
It’s robust taking win charges with no consideration within the NFL, until we’re speaking about Reid win charges. The 4 quarterbacks with at the least 10 regular-season begins beneath Reid throughout his 25-year profession as a head coach all had profitable information, from Mahomes to Donovan McNabb to Alex Smith to Michael Vick.
Reid QB | W-L-T | Win Pct |
---|---|---|
94-25-0 |
.790 |
|
101-56-1 |
.642 |
|
51-30-0 |
.630 |
|
18-17-0 |
.514 |
The speed for Mahomes is close to 80 %, which may very well be sustainable now that Kansas Metropolis is supporting him with a proficient younger protection.
6. Aaron Rodgers, like Peyton Manning with Denver in 2012, has a 2-3 beginning document in what quantities to his first season within the lineup together with his new crew. These Broncos received their subsequent 11.
With Rodgers’ Jets going through the Buffalo Payments with a shot to enhance to 3-3 on Monday evening, I used to be curious how different older future Corridor of Fame quarterbacks fared of their first 5 video games with their new groups.
Rodgers made his Jets debut final season, however he lasted solely 4 snaps earlier than struggling a season-ending harm. For the sake of comparability, I’ve stacked Rodgers’ first 5 begins of 2024 towards the primary 5 begins different 35-and-older future Corridor of Famers made with their new groups.
Future HOF QBs With New Groups (Age 35+)
QB | First 5 Begins | Staff Reached |
---|---|---|
2-3 |
TBD |
|
3-2 |
Tremendous Bowl (W) |
|
2-3 |
Divisional Spherical |
|
3-2 |
No Playoffs (9-7) |
|
4-1 |
AFC Title Sport |
Manning’s 2012 Denver Broncos fell to 2-3 with a Week 5 defeat at New England. They trailed by at the least 20 factors in all three defeats, together with 31-7 towards the Patriots. They didn’t hearth their coach. They received their subsequent 11 video games to complete 13-3 of their first season with Manning behind middle, after Manning missed a season to get well from neck surgical procedure.
Manning was extra prolific in the course of the Broncos’ 2-3 begin than Rodgers has been this season. Nevertheless, he did have a three-pick recreation in a Week 2 defeat at Atlanta (Minnesota intercepted Rodgers 3 times final week).
QB | 2012 Manning | 2024 Rodgers |
---|---|---|
Sport Nos. |
1-5 |
1-5 |
W-L |
2-3 |
2-3 |
Cmp-att |
130-197 |
111-182 |
Cmp% |
66% |
61% |
Yds |
1,499 |
1,093 |
Yds/att |
7.6 |
6.0 |
TD-INT |
11-3 |
7-4 |
Ranking |
101.0 |
81.6 |
Sacked |
10 |
13 |
EPA/go play |
+0.20 |
-0.09 |
16+ cmp |
33 |
21 |
Tm OFF EPA/G |
+7.6 |
-6.0 |
Tm DEF/ST EPA/G |
-3.4 |
+7.6 |
All the opposite legendary quarterbacks listed above had profitable information of their debut seasons with their new groups. Joe Montana missed video games early in his 1993 debut season with the Chiefs. Kansas Metropolis went 8-3 with him within the lineup that first 12 months.
Johnny Unitas flamed out with the San Diego Chargers in 1973, his age-40 season, beginning solely 4 video games and retiring after the season. Joe Namath suffered an identical destiny with the Los Angeles Rams in 1977, when he was 34. He by no means performed once more, both.
• Lamar Jackson’s Baltimore Ravens held off Jayden Daniels’ Washington Commanders 30-23 in Baltimore. The rating was 3-3 via one quarter and 10-10 deep into the second. Commanders coach Dan Quinn stated greater than as soon as the sport felt extra lopsided than the rating. However I believed this recreation was higher than it may have been for Washington.
Daniels has now performed six consecutive stable video games to start out his profession. This was his sixth consecutive begin averaging at the least 0.10 EPA per go play. Solely 11 different quarterbacks since 2000 have strung collectively streaks that lengthy to start out a season. Their names: Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Josh Allen, Daunte Culpepper, Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo and Kurt Warner.
As former Washington coach Jay Gruden identified, the job that Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson turned down appears to be like fairly interesting now.
• The Bears ought to be happy with their enchancment and rookie quarterback Caleb Williams’ enchancment just lately. They’re 4-2 and may breathe following a 1-2 begin to the season.
“He made a pair Tier 1 throws into tight home windows within the pink zone,” a veteran coach stated.
We known as Chicago the fourth-best crew within the NFC North not way back. A visit to Washington in Week 7 will inform us greater than 4 victories over one-win groups in Tennessee, the Rams, Carolina and Jacksonville.
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• The Saints scored 27 second-quarter factors towards Tampa Bay and nonetheless misplaced, 51-27.
Groups at the moment are 46-2 since 2000 when scoring at the least 25 factors within the second quarter. The desk under reveals won-lost information since then in all video games when groups scored greater than 24 within the second quarter.
2Q Factors | W-L-T | Win % |
---|---|---|
35 |
2-0 |
1.000 |
34 |
1-0 |
1.000 |
31 |
4-0 |
1.000 |
29 |
1-0 |
1.000 |
28 |
28-0 |
1.000 |
27 |
7-2 |
.778 |
26 |
2-0 |
1.000 |
25 |
1-0 |
1.000 |
Totals |
46-2 |
.958 |
The opposite defeat, per TruMedia: Detroit misplaced 37-27 at Pittsburgh in Week 11 of 2013. That Lions crew couldn’t cease Roethlisberger from tossing two landing passes within the closing 5 minutes.
The Saints picked off Baker Mayfield 3 times Sunday however couldn’t cease him from tossing 4 landing passes for an offense that amassed 594 yards. No protection with Dennis Allen as head coach or coordinator has allowed extra yards in a recreation.
• New England Patriots rookie Drake Maye got here away from his first begin with three landing passes, together with a 40-yard deep shot to Kayshon Boutte.
.@DrakeMaye2‘s first @NFL TD is to @KayshonBoutte1 🏈
📺: CBS pic.twitter.com/Oi7BpFvq6H
— New England Patriots (@Patriots) October 13, 2024
The Patriots trailed 27-7 and misplaced 41-21, falling to 1-5 with their fifth consecutive defeat. Their offense posted its second-worst EPA recreation of the season by whole and per play. To this point in Week 6, solely Dallas had a decrease success price on offense than New England’s 32 %.
None of that issues a lot. This Patriots season has began anew. There’s now motive to observe.
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• The Seattle-era indoor-outdoor splits for Seahawks quarterback Geno Smith continued to diverge following back-to-back dwelling defeats within the components.
Indoors (11 begins): 23 touchdowns, 5 interceptions, 8.2 yards per try, 108.1 score, 0.19 EPA per go play
Outdoor (26 begins): 32 touchdowns, 22 interceptions, 7.0 yards per try, 88.6 score, -0.03 EPA per go play
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